Interview: Survivor Sonam Mittal by Tara Kaushal

October 2017: Part of a series of interviews Sowmya Rajaram and I conduct of survivors of gender violence.

In 2015, Greenpeace India was rocked by allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace. At the centre of it all was a blog post written by this former employee.

When Sonam, a multiple-rape survivor, joined Greenpeace at their Bengaluru office in 2012, a senior colleague sexually harassed her. She complained to HR—but her complaint was not taken seriously, although the man was known to be a repeat offender. So when another colleague raped her a year later, she was unable to report it to the police or to her employers. “How could I, when the process had failed me once already?" Depressed, she resigned a few months later.

In February 2015, two years after the assault, she finally gained the courage to speak about the episode on social media, as well as about the systemic violence she had faced. It was a decision that would change her life.

She says that therapy helped her understand that what happened to her was not her fault, and allowed her to go public. She weathered the victim shaming, and has even used the title of a hateful blog written about her—Spoilt Modern Indian Woman—as the name of the feminist collective she started on Facebook. She also founded an NGO called Azaadi that helps organisations develop a proactive approach to sexual harassment in the workplace.

Today, for the first time on camera, the ‘Greenpeace Girl’ speaks to Sowmya Rajaram of her difficult journey from victim to survivor… and activist.

Videography- Rahul Deshpande | Production- Jacob Cherian & Priyanka Sutaria | Editing- Poulomi Roy


This interview appeared on Pass the Mic, the blog of Why Indian Men Rape in October 2017.

Interview: Survivor Adrienne Thadani by Tara Kaushal

August 2017: Part of a series of interviews I conduct of survivors of gender violence.

An Indian-American, Adrienne came to Mumbai in 2010 to learn about her roots, fell in love with the country and stayed on as an organic farmer. Around Diwali in 2015, she returned home at night but the front door wouldn’t open. Neither the watchman nor the men he brought—who she assumed were locksmiths—were able to open it. As she sat alone on the landing outside the apartment speaking to friends about where she would stay, one of the men attempted to rape her.

She fought him off and pleaded with him as he dislocated her jaw, banged her head against the floor and broke her fingers, all the while trying to disrobe her. Eventually, she managed to get away, call the lift and stumble into it.

She says she felt strong and powerful after the act—she had caught the perpetrator, got him to the police, got two sets of medical checks, arranged witnesses and, basically, did everything she could to get justice. Two months “of hell” later, owing to the indifference of and difficulties with the law enforcement agencies, she was devastated and depressed. “What is the justice?” she asks.

A year and a half later, she tells me of her difficult story from victim to survivor, and how she has re-found her voice.

Videography- Amol Kamat Photography | Production- Priyanka Sutaria, Arti Jairaj & Rumit Gambhir | Editing- Dhyey Chitalia & Shailesh Makwana (Picture It Photography)


This interview appeared on Pass the Mic, the blog of Why Indian Men Rape in August 2017.

All Changes Great & Small by Tara Kaushal

July 2016: A discussion about plastic surgery through my personal experiences.

When I was 23, I got myself a rhinoplasty. Though my nose is perfectly straight and sits well proportioned in my face, the somewhat bovine curve at the bottom bothered me. Not the curve, per se, but a childhood memory related to it.

When I was about six, my mother had casually told me my nose looked like Barbara Streisand’s. Which, in itself, is not a bad thing to say (though it doesn’t, what were you smoking, Ma)? Forgetting all about seeding this comparison and my spectacular memory, a few months later she said, “Barbara Streisand has a really ugly nose.” This comment, for a reason that completely escaped her, caused her little daughter to weep and weep until my little heart nearly gave way.

And though my nose really didn’t/doesn’t look like the long-nosed singer’s at all; it wasn’t/isn’t really ugly and no one had/has ever said so since—the unintentional scar remained on my psyche, immune to all reason. I wouldn’t pose for side-profile pictures and was convinced it wasn’t my best face forward.

So one fine morning, mother in tow, I consulted a plastic surgeon. A few days later, I protested as he injected my nose with local anaesthesia (ouch!) and endured the hour-long tugging feeling (not ouch). I walked away with an inconspicuous bandage and a little pain that stayed a few days.

It’s the psychological scar that the rhinoplasty fixed. It fixed nothing else, physically speaking, as there is zero discernible difference before and after, despite going back a second time. My aunt, in an effort to make me feel good, kindly said, “Oh, but this is the true test of plastic surgery—you shouldn’t be able to tell!” And then, what exactly is the point?

The curve at the bottom still exists as it always did; but whereas it once looked to me like something you’d stick a ring through if I were a cow, I’ve now made my peace with it. Difference or no difference, pain or no pain, money down the drain or not, the surgery made me feel much better about myself. As I wrote overconfidently in an article fresh off the experience ten years ago: “I no longer feel that Aishwarya Rai is any competition at all…”

Trial & Error

Since, I’ve had other permanent changes made to my body. In addition to the navel ring I’ve had and loved since I was 19, I now have many more earholes than the socially prescribed pair, a nose piercing not seated in the cultural milieu in which I was raised, and eight (and counting) tattoos.

Then there have been the impermanent changes—I’ve had my lips filled twice: once on a whim, the second time along with some Botox to the skin when I was getting married. My hair has borne the brunt of my desire for change, from shaving it at 19 and 23, to a disastrous perm and a whole host of colours.

The first time I had my lips filled was when I was visiting a famous and overrated dermatologist for, you know, regular stuff. I mentioned I had always wanted fuller lips and her ‘why don’t you try’ response set the ball rolling, part of a phase of flippant experimentation. The injections were painful, despite the local anaesthesia. Worse, when the swelling subsided three days later, I discovered that her heavy hand left me with lips too full.

I looked strange, uncomfortable at work with the obvious and obviously new pout. The teasing by close friends, albeit good-natured, didn’t help. Within a month, my lips receded to the nice and gentle plumpness I had first envisioned; they were back to normal in three or so.

The second time was four years later, in the expert hands of aesthetic dermatologist Dr Rashmi Shetty. I loved it. Painful, yes, but worth it! I loved my wedding photos; I loved how my lips looked on my clear face, the acne pits Botoxed away. Dr Shetty told me the pits would be smaller once the Botox wore off, that the mere act of injecting them would stimulate collagen and self-healing—and she was right, then and four years since. The doctor does make all the difference.

The Commands of Culture

Notice I’ve clubbed the changes I’ve made to my body according to their permanence. Doing this is at the base of my argument—that our acceptance of ‘invasive beauty treatments’ is purely cultural. Ear and nose piercings don’t raise eyebrows in India, whereas a rhinoplasty does; in Iran, the ‘nose job capital of the world’, flaunting post-rhinoplasty bandages is a thing. Also consider the (now outlawed) Chinese binding of women’s feet, scarification in some African tribes and the elongation of women’s necks using brass rings practiced by the Kayan tribe in Burma.

What we are supposed and allowed to do with and to our bodies and hair is completely culturally controlled. Prevailing Western norms idealise seemingly effortless, perfect, ‘natural’ beauty, where we are supposed/allowed to ‘decorate’ the features we are ‘born’ with. Thus our willingness to talk about, indeed flaunt, some changes we make, and hide others. Think about it: apart from the personal pain and patience thresholds, what differentiates filling lips from colouring hair or bleaching teeth, if one takes their chemicals to be equally harmful. (In fact, the most commonly used filler, hyaluronic acid, is less toxic than carcinogenic hair dye. Go figure.)

When I got the nose job, I thought long and hard about whether I would tell people. I decided to do so to avoid the lying and its complications (and then, as I am wont to do, I wrote about it in a national magazine). “No need for a nose job, babe, you’re beautiful as you are,” read Shibu’s SMS. “Kya naak katake aayee hai,” said my witty grandfather. “Great new weight-loss plan—getting rid of 20 grams at a time by chopping off body parts,” teased Shiv.

But, considering just how successful my surgeon’s pursuit of a ‘subtle change’ was and the lack of a scar, I could well have got away without revealing this indulgence to anyone but family. Not so with the obvious pout the first time I got the lip fillers. And with the work around the wedding—everyone just commented on how lovely I looked. This, then, was the subtlety of cosmetic treatments my aunt was talking about.

Keeping It Real

As ironic as it sounds, I believe it’s important to talk about the work beauty entails, in order to keep it real. Bombarded with media and advertising ideas of ‘perfect female beauty’, it’s worse to propagate the myth that it’s cheap, stress-free and natural. When beauty icons thank #metabolism for their bodies and #greatgenes for their skins and features—not starvation diets, crazy workouts and surgery; dermatology; make-up and Photoshop—they make it all seem easy-peasy, and others feel worse.

Compare, for instance, the routes of actress Anushka Sharma and Kylie Jenner of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, and their repercussions. When Anushka’s lip job was ‘outed’ on Koffee with Karan—she says she wasn’t hiding, just “didn’t know [she] had to tell everyone”—she took on Twitter bullies headfirst, making a statement about choice. Meanwhile, 18-year-old Kylie spent years denying cosmetic changes, her luscious lips prompting the painful #kyliejennerchallenge on social media. Teens blew up their lips by sucking in on bottles or shot glasses causing painful bruising—until she finally admitted to using temporary lip fillers.

Why Do I Do It?

I don’t think I’m ugly—far from it, I think I’m pretty attractive (and modest, as you can see). Not for the pleasure of the Male Gaze; not for the pressure of perfection.

There is no doubt that looking good makes me feel good. At 33, I’m fitter than I have ever been (when I can, I work out for at least 20 hours a month, FYI). I don’t envision using lip fillers again and, in theory, I have no problems with the impending wrinkles and the inching sags. My tattoos both display and enhance my body confidence, and I foresee swathes of inked skin. I also see myself covering growing greys with plumes of pink and purple, ‘coz camouflage is clearly my thing.

I do it because I want to. While I’m wary of ‘choice feminism’—not all choices women make are feministic simply by virtue of being women’s choices—ones journey with ones body is ones own. I am individualistic; I do both, rebel against and participate in a variety of cultures. As does my body.

With the body, as with life, one must accept the things one cannot or does not want to change; change the things one cannot or does not want to accept. To embrace it and transcend it; to enjoy it and worship it; to love it and let it go.


An edited version of this article appeared in Elle in July 2016. Read the first article I wrote about my rhinoplasty here.

Bald, Bold & Beautiful by Tara Kaushal

May 2016: Why I—and so many other women who’ve also taken the step—found going bald liberating.

Artist and TED Fellow Sharmistha Ray’s personal and powerful ‘In India, Choosing a Hairstyle is an Act of Social Revolt’ sent me down memory lane, and back to journals from when I was 19 and 22. For around six months each time, I’d sported a shaved head—phases I consider crucial in my personal growth.

The first time was on my 19th birthday. As my father and I left to go to the barber’s shop in Noida, that pulsating epicentre of patriarchy, we told my grandmother where we were going and what for. When we returned, she was aghast—she couldn’t believe my father would let me do a ‘mundan’ of my long, dark, beautiful hair, and had thought we’d been joking.

The second time was when he lay dying, and I’d just moved to Mumbai just before I’d turned 23, at a turbulent phase of my romantic life. 

It’s a funny sensation, getting rid of a headful of hair. Both times, I had this strange tick that abated in a day or two, my neck and head adjusting to the weight that had been lifted. And, both times, it had been, symbolically.

By scorning this traditional marker of beauty, at 19 I was ready to declare that I was individualistic and freethinking; bold and confrontational; that I would strive to challenge unfounded sociocultural rules about femininity… and everything, for that matter. As my life spiralled towards crash-landing at 22, it reminded me of the control I could exert on my own choices and body; represented the bittersweet freedom of leaving a marriage; and gave me strength.

It was certainly a ‘thing’. “Feminine constructs for hair aren’t specific to India, of course, but here, the feminine aesthetic is strictly binary and coded — and dogmatically enforced by society,” says Sharmistha. Open, bound, dishevelled or shorn; with hairstyles so deeply socialised in Indian culture, “the freedom to do what one likes with one’s hair is implicit in the struggle for emancipation from social bondage.”

It is no wonder that many of my more radical counterculture and feminist friends have shaved their heads, usually in their early 20s. Now in their mid- to late-30s, these women all describe the liberation and strength the step gave them. Most of us still wear our hair short or give-a-damn. “I loved answering the question ‘Why?’” said Shibu. “Gave me a chance to shock and awe.” For Isha: “It was kind-of like wearing my rebellion, my heart, on my head.”

I met the lovely liberal man who would be my second husband during my second bald phase. From the moment we met, there was never confusion about what I stood for—and what he did. Sporting an ‘integrated personality’ cuts out the bullshit and lets people know who you are, right off the bat, and I’m all for the expression of ones true self, in the way one wears ones body.

If you’ve never done it before—get yourself a bald look or buzz cut. Perfect for the summer heat too…


An edited version of this article appeared on iDiva in May 2016.

Curfew: A Feminist Issue by Tara Kaushal

May 2016: Why the infantalisation of adult women by their families must stop.

At a recent sundowner, I met a woman who said she wouldn’t come to the afterparty because “I have the Cinderella problem, you know… I have to be home by 12.” “Why?!” I asked, astounded—I haven’t met someone with a curfew since I can remember, and I had gathered from our conversation thus far that she was a 38-year-old businesswoman. “Parents,” she said (single/divorced, it never came up). 

There are several reasons children are given curfews. For boys and girls, the primary one is safety—dark things lurk in the shadows of the night. With teenagers, parents are also worried about the things they get up to, though someone I know once retorted to his father, “It’s not like we can’t have sex in the day, you know.”

From teenage, one notices a strong bifurcation, where the boys’ curfews are much later than the girls’, even between siblings. Why, though? Socioculturally, boys experiment with alcohol, drugs, porn, sex and drugs, and start driving earlier than girls do; ergo, it is safe to assume that the things they’re getting up to are ‘worse’ than the girls. Alongside the sexual safety aspect, another thing has changed here—here’s where The Big R, Reputation, raises its head for girls.

And it apparently stays that way, until the woman is married, whether or not she lives with her parents. I’ve heard many generations of my girl students from out of town (in Mumbai for a post grad course, around 22-23 years old) tell me how their parents call to ensure they’re home at night. A 30-year-old friend from the North East describes how her mother uses FaceTime or insists on receiving a WhatsApp location. (Every one of them ends up telling their parents the most creative lies, just FYI. As do the boys.)

For a moment, let’s consider—and dismiss—the sexual safety aspect for adult women. Acquaintance rape (by a man you know) and custodial rape (by a man with higher status, such as a landlord, policeman or employer), which are common in India, are as likely in the day as in the night. Assuming a woman is with people she trusts, her passage home late at night is safe enough in most Indian metros. I take my safety in the trains, cabs and autos of Mumbai for granted; even in Delhi, radio cabs and safety apps mean women no longer need a male escort home, as we did when I lived there. No drunk driving either, great.

The bottom line, methinks, is that families fear the nefarious nocturnal activities of their daughters—and the reputation they engender. This infantalisation of women, their wills bent at the altar of patriarchy norms and safety, makes curfew a feminist issue.

Parents: trust your kids, set them free, and know that what’s fair for your sons is fair for your daughters. Women: push the boundaries. Stay out at night, reclaim our streets, play a part in making that the new normal. The personal is, after all, political.


An edited version of this article appeared on iDiva in May 2016.

Breaking the ‘Actress’ Mould by Tara Kaushal

April 2016: Does the mainstreaming of actresses who are mothers, like Waluscha de Sousa, signal a shift in the way we see women?

The word 'actress' has been the subject of much feminist/linguistic questioning and debate. Must it be clubbed with obsolete words from a time when professions where the preserve of one sex—like authoress, comedienne, manageress, lady doctor, male nurse, male teacher—and, therefore, rejected? Or does it fall under the more advanced, newer envisioning of gender dynamic—different but equal—and, therefore, reclaimed? 

While I'm of the latter opinion, I am not surprised at its outright rejection by so many young female actors. (To quote Stephen Prichard of The Guardian, "Being obliged to describe someone as a 'female actor' suggests that we still consider the term ‘actor’ to be fundamentally male, so why not keep the unambiguous 'actress'?") After all, the word ‘actress’ does come with a whole lot of baggage.

An actress was necessarily a fair and virginal PYT, whose primary role was to evoke love, lust and longing in the hearts of fervid fans. Acting prowess was important but not paramount. In her private life, (the appearance of) virginity or at least singleness was a prerequisite. Marriage and/or age and most certainly kids dashed the illusion of her availability, and were the end of her career.

On the other hand, an actor evoked, or hoped to evoke adulation and respect, feelings different in quality from those reserved for actresses. More than just a pretty face, his acting style and persona were important. He could have a complicated love life and marry multiple times, not to mention run over people and assist terrorists. His ageing served to only increase the age gap between him and his female leads.

Divya Bharti, who acted in several successful movies after her marriage to Sajid Nadiadwala (cut short by her tragic death in under a year), may have been on her way to breaking the trend in the early 1990s. Then, we lost Juhi, Karishma, Madhuri, Sonali and Kajol to post-marriage sabbaticals, whether voluntary or not. Finally, this decade has seen Kareena Kapoor Khan, who lived with a much older man of a different religion before marrying him. Sunny Leone, who was a porn star and is married, loud and proud of both. Radhika Apte is married. So is South Indian actress Abhirami.

Enter former model Waluscha de Sousa, who makes her debut in Shah Rukh Khan's Fan later this week. A single mother of three at 33 (she's divorced from Marc Robinson who she married at 19), she breaks all stereotypes, and joins the ranks of women redefining the mores of Hindi cinema. Not to mention society in general, if art reflects life and vice versa.

After much ado about this thing, now let’s just hope she can act.


An edited version of this article appeared on iDiva in April 2016.

 

‘The Complete Man’ with Clay Feet by Tara Kaushal

April 2016: Are we setting unrealistic expectations for men in society and romance?

Everywhere you look, today, there’s someone or the other defining the idea of ‘The Complete Man’, not just Raymond that has done so for generations. From the overt messaging in comedy sketches to the covert criticism in the Ariel Share the Load ad emerges a fairly comprehensive picture of what this complete man should be.

He essays traditional masculine roles—handsome, successful, provider, carer, knight in shining armour—while being an equal and supportive partner, doting father, ideal son. He is concerned about his appearance (not so much to be dandy, not so little to forgive the curl of a nostril hair). He’s chivalrous (but not chauvinistic). He’s involved in the home and with the kids, but we’re not quite ready for househusbands (going by Ki & Ka and its unwitting reinforcement of gender stereotypes). He’s cultural yet contemporary, and imbibes the best of East and West. He’s jealous enough to make his woman feel ‘loved and protected’, but cool about exes, besties and colleagues that mill around. Mills and Boons meets Fifty Shades. And the jury’s still out on whether ‘real men’ cry, and how much, exactly, is acceptable?

Just like Rahul, the ‘perfect child’ in the recent masterpiece Kapoor & Sons, finds the pressure hard to bear, real men are falling short of these expectations. In romance and relationships too—where in our mothers’ generation, a man who merely didn’t beat or cheat on you and allowed you to work was considered a ‘keeper’, men today have many more complex criteria to meet.

In addition to fairy-tale happily-ever-afters, women now set out expecting this perfect, delicate combination… only to encounter mollycoddled mamas’ boys not raised to meet these expectations, confusedly negotiating a world that straddles dowry and Tinder. Even those with the best intent may fall navigating the emotional and sociocultural minefields that characterise our times.

Not for a moment am I suggesting that women should accept some of the shit that passed for partnership (romance, marriage, etc) in previous generations. And I wholeheartedly celebrate divorces that come from women knowing their minds and having the economic power to walk out when things don’t work out.

All I’m saying is that, just as men must celebrate real women and real beauty beyond Photoshop and media imaging—he shouldn’t expect “a maid in the living room, cook in the kitchen and whore in the bedroom,” to quote Jerry Hall—women too must ease up on the expectations of all-round perfection. People, relationships, aren’t born fully formed, and take time and patience even with The One.

Meanwhile, will candidates for ‘The Complete Man’ please stand up?


An edited version of this article appeared on iDiva in April 2016.

Interview: Sonali Bendre Behl by Tara Kaushal

January 2016: She’s self-made from the start, actor, wife and mother—this, you knew. Meet the Goth chic, deep thinker, voracious reader, design aficionado, fresh author of a parenting book and much more… Sonali Bendre is in bloom.

The cover of Good Housekeeping.

The cover of Good Housekeeping.

The door to Sonali and Goldie’s apartment opens to reveal a giant shiny silver Ganesha ensconced in an ornate domed mini temple, also in silver, at the end of the marble reception area. And although my pre-interview expectations had been conflicting—she’s of the era where you were ‘good friends’ until you were married; my interest had however been piqued by reviews that called her book honest and contemporary—whether or not I know it, I’ve subconsciously made up my mind in a split second. Traditional style, same-old same-old.

It’s the only explanation for why, seconds later, I was so incredibly surprised when I followed the help into the living room where I was to wait. It is dramatic, high-design, Goth-European. With lush wooden floors, deep blues and blacks, and bursting with books. Indian elements, so subtle you’d almost miss them, link the décor. I can’t get over it, and sneakily look around for a CCTV before taking a picture. (There wasn’t one, unlike most stars’ and modern parents’ homes. And I didn’t, just FYI.)

Over a long ambling conversation, interrupted only by the attention-seeking Isis-the-dog, Sonali Bendre Behl continues to surprise. She arrives, in a grey skater dress with nary a hint of make-up and accessories, and apologises for keeping me waiting. It’s been a hectic day organising her 10-year-old son Ranveer’s schedule (“He wants to do everything!”); and she’s been in constant touch with her publishers over her recent book, The Modern Gurukul: My Experiments with Parenting.

Becoming a mother, and then writing this book about her journey through motherhood have been the epochal moments of her life. Until Ranveer was born, she barely felt married—so footloose and fancy-free was life with her best friend and easy in-laws—and neither did Goldie. When she was pregnant, she was quite confident, blasé even: “I am a completely self-made person. It’s been a tough journey—I learnt on the job, worked 48 hours without sleeping… I’ve achieved all this, I can do anything.” So, having read everything there was to read, Superwoman had shrugged her shoulders and said, “So big deal! It’s a child! I will deal with it!”

And, she got put in her place. “It’s nothing like what the books tell you.” The first six months were hell. “First, it was a fight to say why is my square peg not fitting into this round hole, but it didn’t. It’s an individual with a mind of his or her own already.” And then she accepted it was not going to happen. “You just figure that, whatever anyone says, you have to start figuring things out vis-à-vis your child.”

As she explains in her book, when she started looking for answers, they were everywhere. In storybooks and TED Talks, newspaper articles and celeb interviews, and in discussions with girlfriends who were also mothers. Her quest eventually led her to the gurukul system, where the emphasis was on raising a ‘compassionate human being using a holistic approach.’

As her tattered bible of notes became rather famous, her girlfriends sparked the idea of getting it published. “It was a big laugh at first,” she says, though a chance party conversation had Random House interested.

It was only two years later, in 2014, that she got around to writing. She’d spent six months doing a TV show; by the time she finished, she had organised her life in such a way that it was working on her phone. Suddenly there was a new vacuum “and a vacuum is a dangerous place”—so for six months, while her husband was on shoot and Ranveer was at school, she wrote.

“Even history tells you that travelling is the best teacher. It makes you less judgemental and more open to accepting different kinds of people and situations.”

What started out being a compilation of her observations turned out to be a lot more personal and revealing about her, Goldie and Ranveer than she “ever wanted, expected or dreamt of” it being. When the book was ready, she panicked—“I was such a private person; I wasn’t even on Twitter!”—and was willing to put it away as a not-so-wasted effort, because at least it had given her a chance to introspect.

Goldie was most pleased about the chapter on fathers. “He felt parenting becomes all about mother… what about him and men like him who want to be hands-on? Even in educated households, mothers-in-law will say, ‘Arrey woh toh maa ka kaam hai, why are you doing it?’ It’s frustrating because a lot of fathers want to be involved.”

More importantly, he, and the book in general, have pushed her boundaries. “When people come to interview you as a Bollywood actress, they are not interested in your answers or what you think, beyond a point.” There is a construct of an actress of a certain generation, I agree, and Sonali says she never fit in. “There’s a hidden Goth in me; I have a dark sense of humour; I have a dark sense of fashion. I’m a straight lines, no-fuss person. I’m actually the opposite of what my profession wants me to be, in a sense.”

But it was a private non-conformism, not one she broadcast to the world. “Goldie told me that, if my grouse was that I was never asked interesting questions and wasn’t on social media, how, exactly, was anyone to know me, to know any different?”

This was around the time she was doing talent shows, opening up, saying what she had to say, unscripted. And, for someone who had once said she was terrified of social media, she’s finally on it, enjoying it and admitting that staying away had been a mistake.

Sonali on Trivia

"At film interviews, they only ever want trivia—they are not interested in anything but the trivia. My favourite colour, food, book, movie, song, eye colour, perfume… all those sorts of things.

I’ve always given different answers at different points of time because it actually changes for me. And sometimes I’ve given different answers for cheap thrills. Then there are days when I tell the truth: ‘I’m actually allergic to perfume, I don’t use it.’

No one has ever contradicted saying, ‘But last time you said black. How are you saying white is your favourite colour?’ Because nobody’s bothered to read it; no one’s really interested. It is trivia and it is trivial."

A large part of her new interest in (and knowledge about) technology and social media has come for and from Ranveer. He’s 10 and on Instagram, and it’s terrifying. “As Goldie says, we can’t ban him, so now I join him.” In any case, as she says in the book, her principal ideas of new-age parenting are learning and growing with your children (they ask “Google God”), and relying on their ability to self-censor. So far it’s working. “I’ve had times where he has said, ‘Mama, that’s PG 13, I know I’m not supposed to see it.’”

There was this time when Sonali was cutting his nails and he said, “This is the finger that I’m not supposed to show right?”

“He was six or seven! Kids are exposed to so much more; there is so much more happening. They are going to see it; they are going to hear that F word… So you bring up your child to understand the right and wrong much earlier than we did: what I would have had to know at 15 or 16, he has to know at five or six.”

Sonali on Being Her Mother’s Daughter

Much like her parents, giving her child the tools to handle the world is key to Sonali and Goldie’s parenting strategy. Despite having more flops than hits, she was working with every top star and banner in the country—and attributes this to her professionalism and independence.

“My mother never came to the sets.

I have a younger sister and she said, ‘I have a daughter at home who needs me. If you were working in an office, you think I would be sitting next to you at a desk?’ was her question.

I said, ‘No, but everybody’s mother seems to go with them.’

She said, ‘I can’t. You have to grow up at some point and handle a few things on your own. I will have to trust my upbringing and believe that you will take the right decisions. I would only tell you one thing—just remember, it’s never too late to turn back and come home. The doors are always going to be open.’

That has been my life lesson, and I just hope I can do that for my child. Because I think there’s nothing more you can do than that.”

Sonali is unabashed about being from a regular middle-class Maharashtrian family; a product of a series of Kendriya Vidyalaya schools as a result of her father’s transferable government job. The rootlessness has left her with the ability to project a false sense of being comfortable and be friendly while never totally opening up, and the confidence to give up trying to fit in.

And then she met and married Goldie—a boy with deep roots in Juhu, Mumbai, where he’s grown up and they now live, and in the film industry, where he’s third-generation. “There are a lot of people who are family; a lot of people who are such close friends that they are like family.”

She muses over her mug of coffee for a moment. “Maybe I became a loner because we travelled so much,” adding that writing letters to friends didn’t really work. She reaps the benefits of Goldie’s tapestry of connections: “Juhu’s like a village! It’s a great support system, especially for a child… and we are, eventually, social animals.”

Life is coming full circle, though Facebook, that has been the amalgamation of connections past for most of us, hasn’t worked as well for her. With a touch of the endearing naïve befuddlement à la those aunties who still send the ‘FWD: FWD: FWD’ jokes, this social media newbie says, “There are lot of strange people who tell me we were classmates... in schools I’ve never been to…” She attributes her not recognising the ‘former classmates’ who add her to a poor memory for names and faces; I propose the obvious instead. It’s the stardom—people remember meeting or having been in school with someone who became famous, and are happy to invent and exaggerate friendships. Then there’s the platoon of creeps, of course.

Her husband and her have a special connection, despite their apparent dissimilarities. Like her, he started working, grew up really early in life, owing to the early death of his father. He’s more romantic than she is, the “dramas” of flowers and jewellery were never part of her life. That she forgets birthdays and anniversaries (and doesn’t mind if people forget hers) is something Goldie is just about coming to terms with—it’s the small gestures that matter. “That’s the person I am, and I think that, again, comes from the rootlessness. It’s not such a big deal, those dates… you take whatever comes.”

It is his decision not to have a second child, and she’s happy to go with his conviction. “He says we’ve had enough responsibilities, so there should be a time where we have none. We’ve never done what our teenage friends were doing, so are really looking forward to having that time out to ourselves.” Doing what, exactly? “You know, travel, learn something… Maybe there are certain things that teenagers do that we’ll never feel like doing; other things we would want to do…”

Obviously not someone who dwells on regrets, Sonali does regret how late she started working out. As a skinny person, she didn’t need to workout to lose weight—now, she realises muscles are her best friends, and she doesn’t have enough of those. She started when Ranveer was around three, not to lose the postpartum weight but to keep up with him. The working injuries started catching up; her core and joints were like jelly.

Physiotherapy got her started; now, she does cardio and strength training at the local gym, but not more than four days a week, not more than half an hour. “Any more becomes boring and mindless.” She does functional training at home on days she can’t make it to the gym in the morning.

“My routine is very simple, because I realised that the more complicated the exercise sessions are, the less likely I am to make it for them. They have to be simple and doable in my daily routine.” Everyone has to figure out his or her own way to do it—much like her parenting mantra.

Letting people see the real you, not giving a damn and being yourself in public is a crucial, liberating step in the evolution of a person, an artist, charting his or her own path, I believe. Though she’s not a hundred per cent there yet, she’s followed a classic trajectory. “I was very young when I started, so I’ve tried to conform and do things as they are meant to be.” But, beyond that, “I never tried to fit in, and I’m not even today. I don’t see any reason why I should want to fit in.”

The real Sonali Bendre Behl stands up.


An edited version of this interview was the cover story of Good Housekeeping in January 2016.